Sunday, January 7, 2024

Trump says he could have negotiated the Civil War :Red states losers again in 2024.

Trump says he could have negotiated the Civil War and would have avoided the carnage. :Red states would still be losers again in 2024 for the same reasons..

Just like he said he could end the Ukraine war in 45 minutes, he came up with another one in retrospect. In both, no doubt he could. Just give Russia what they wanted on a silver platter, Ukraine, and just give the South what they wanted: continuation of slavery and their agrarian economy. https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-believes-civil-war-could-have-been-negotiated-1858417

Capitulation is not negotiation.

What about now, in 2024, if there would be a civil war and GOP states would break away peacefully, avoiding the carnage? Once again, there is some talk, only from the extreme MAGAs, of a civil war, as if they could threaten with violence to get their way because they failed to do it through the ballot. It reminds me of Ashley iin the early scenes of "Gone With the Wind" as he donned the uniform of the Confederacy, determined to save the slave-based lifestyle of the romantic South. We know how that turned out. The result if it happened in 2024 would not be much different.The economic setbacks and reconstruction of a  violent civil war would be devastating to the losers, and the red states would be the losers. This is likely because this would follow the old pattern of the North, even in 2024, having the resources, educated populations, and industrial base in place'( Likely because the red states are by and large more rural) as well.)

 Assuming there would need to be some contiguous geographic block to make it work, the outlines of the old confederacy would be the most likely. The old South is still the poorest in the nation. (The exception: New Mexico, with its population of Native Americans living more traditional lifestyles). Except for the oil-producing nation-sized state of Texas, federal taxpayers pay more out to them than they bring into the federal coffers. They are taker states who would have to make up the difference themselves or continue their status as poorer still without federal assistance..

This newest Trumpianspeak started an exciting bit of speculation over breakfast in our household.  What if the South had its way, a separate country and slave-owning?.  Would the South have turned out like Argentina, Venezuela, and Mexico and internally conflicted with continued white landowner oligarch governance? Would the northern states be more like Scandinavia or England, democratic socialists,  industrialized? Would the loss of oil resources that Texas brought to the table be offset by even closer relations with Canada? Too much coffee. 

 https://wisevoter.com/state-rankings/poverty-rate-by-state

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