Showing posts with label Marjorie Taylor Greene. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Marjorie Taylor Greene. Show all posts

Thursday, April 11, 2024

Christian nationalism Russian style. Evangelicals are persecuted

 The House Intelligence chair has accused a large chunk of the GOP and the House of repeating Russian propaganda.   Among those to whom he has been referring is Marjorie Taylor Greene. A recent example is that Greene claims Ukrainians are killing priests when it is just the opposite of what is happening.  Russians occupying the part of Ukraine they have conquered are killing and terrorizing evangelical churches and pastors, leaving only Russian Orthodox priests not prosecuted, per an in-depth report by PBS based on interviews. https://pbs.org/newshour/show/ukrainian-christian-groups-face-violent-crackdown-from-russian-forcesThousands of Ukrainian evangelicals have fled as Russian troops terrorize them.   Greene is duped or craven for attention or just plain ignorant; she is attempting to stop aid to Ukraine, and plenty of others in the GOP are equally duped. Greene is seriously lacking intelligence. Pun intended. Greene has no excuse because she has access to those on the intelligence committee have access to the truth.  The rest of those who have swallowed a similar line are finding it convenient to repeat what they have seen or heard on modern media that has no requirement to identify the source of such "reports." 

https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-applauds-russia-protecting-christianity-1888145

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/07/politics/mike-turner-russia-ukraine-propaganda-gop-cnntv/index.html


This following segment is also separately repeated in my blog post of  April 13, 2024

MUFTIC FORUM BLOG: Why the US does not, should not, have a national church

Here is why the US does not have a national church.   Dictatorships and religion are a toxic mix.

So many wars had been fought over religion in England when our founders were contemplating what kind of a country this new land would be.  Some of our forefathers were protestant, and others were not.  When the country was first settled in the 1600s, it went through periods in some colonies that had established their own state religions.  We know the stories. Perhaps those who claim this was a Christian nation so, therefore, we should have a state religion has to face the fact that what was considered Christian in one colony was not the same church in another, and it is clear from the militancy today exhibited by the newly minted white Christian nationalists there is no room for those who are Christian, but not with the same interpretations of the scriptures or even with the same priories.  I have given this much thought. Let me repeat some excerpts from my prior blog postings.

How freedom of religion came to be in the Bill of Rights was because of the diversity of experiences in the original colonies. The pilgrims famously sought religious freedom to practice their own brand of Christianity, but it was freedom for them, not everyone. Some colonies like Massachusetts had established state religions with results we ought to remember, such as  Salem witch hunts, hanging or burning at the stake of heretics,  The Scarlet  Letter,  and Puritan overreach causing breakaway founding of Rhode Island by Roger Williams for religious freedom. The success of the Virginia and Pennsylvania colonies not having a state-sponsored religion had been triumphant in keeping internal peace. Fresh in the founders' knowledge of English and European recent histories were centuries of war between protestants and Catholics, the root of many conflicts. 

Christian Nationalists are waiting in the wings for the second coming of Trump as they seek to get even more political power to make their theocracy become a reality. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/20/donald-trump-allies-christian-nationalism-00142086 They are already in positions of political power and are making plans to implement their movement by using the government to do their converting on their behalf.  They are already planning to ride on the skirts of MAGA into the White House which will give them access to all of the reins of power. Those part of the Christian Nationalist movement like Speaker Mike Johnson, were third in line to the presidency. advocates theology that has something in common with the Taliban of Afghanistan that sets medieval rules and uses government to enforce what they believe is acceptable and unacceptable behavior in all phases of citizens' lives, private or public,   MUFTIC FORUM BLOG: The GOP is becoming the American Taliban?

The most recent realization of the Christian Nationalist extremist to use government power to force the vast majority of women to bow down to their ideology is banning in-vitro fertilization. in the meantime, the state gets an F in infant and maternal mortality. https://www.marchofdimes.org/peristats/reports/alabama/report-card

So far as education is concerned, Alabama ranks near the bottom, number 45, as well, in the rankings of states. https://wallethub.com/edu/e/most-educated-states/31075

Alabama also ranks as the 49th lowest state in per capita income.  https://www.statsamerica.org/sip/rank_list.aspx?rank_label=pcpi1

Alabama ranks in the top ten states depending upon federal funding as part of their state budgets. https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/

 The Alabama ban on invitro fertilization is a backdoor attempt to say life begins with an embryo, not at viability. It lays to groundwork for banning any pills taken early in the abortion process and even to ban contraception. " In all, fewer than 15 percent of fertilized eggs will result in a birth..” per the National Institues of Health. Frozen eggs are potential human beings but rarely become actual ones until it is implanted in a human and develop successfully. Jul 14, 2020 per the National Institute of Health. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7670474/#:~:text  The logic escapes me: ban the potential of birth by those who supposedly treasure life. The assumed  purpose however  is  to get the Trump dominated Supreme Court to rule their way to pave the way government to control even more of reproduction rights 


From a November 2. 2023 blog posting:    I am grateful I do not live in a theocracy. When we became a nation with the adoption of the Constitution, the separation of church from state was at the top of the list of the Bill of Rights. The First Amendment to the Constitution clearly says the government cannot establish a religion, the foundation statement of the separation of church and state. ("Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ")  The Christian right has been active in narrowing the interpretation of the First Amendment, and the Christian nationalist movement has made it a goal to eliminate this separation altogether.  Even Jesus referenced separating loyalties from government and God on matters of taxation.: "Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's" (Matthew 22:21 NASB). 

 How freedom of religion came to be in the Bill of Rights was because of the diversity of experiences in the original colonies. The pilgrims famously sought religious freedom to practice their own brand of Christianity, but it was freedom for them, not everyone. Some colonies like Massachusetts had established state religions with results we ought to remember, such as  Salem witch hunts, hanging or burning at the stake of heretics,  The Scarlet  Letter,  and Puritan overreach causing breakaway founding of Rhode Island by Roger Williams for religious freedom. The success of the Virginia and Pennsylvania colonies not having a state-sponsored religion had been triumphant in keeping internal peace. Fresh in the founders' knowledge of English and European recent histories were centuries of war between protestants and Catholics, the root of many conflicts. 





Friday, July 29, 2022

Christian nationalist? Don't forget the white part updated 8/7/22, 9/15,22

Rep.Marjorie Taylor Greene the other day proclaimed proudly she was a Christian nationalist  There are some implications to the term. which could be taken as racist dog whistles.  In any case, she tapped onto a deep and old sentiment held by many of her constituents that calling herself a Christian nationalist is a good thing. There are some advantages and horrors to being born in 1938, I keep seeing history, awful history, repeating itself in my lifetime.  White Christian nationalism in part fueled Hitler's rise to power, his hate-filled oratory.  and resulted in World War II. The current crop of adherents to this ideology ought to put the word "white" in front to describe their real characteristics. The form of this ideology espoused by their advocates has little to do with theology and more with culture  https://time.com/6179886/christianity-white-supremacy-buffalo/   In America, white Christian naitonalism has roots in the Ku Klux Klan. ://www.thedailybeast.com/reverend-nathan-empsall-says-rejecting-christian-nationalism-is-what-jesus-would-do?source=email&via=desktop   

CPAC's flirtation with the Christian Nationalist dictator of Huntary has been moved to later post',MUFTIC FORUM BLOG: CPAC Cheers a white nationalist dictator: is that what the GOP base has become? 

From a newsletter posting on the Bulwark  commentary on Florida Governor Ron DeSantis shipping and dumping immigrants in Martha's Vineyard and touting his "Christian values": 

For Christian nationalists, the cruelty is the point.

"Those planes were filled with actual human beings. People with dignity. People with hopes and dreams, problems and challenges. People with names and families.

And this Christian man used them as props. He didn’t clothe the naked or feed the hungry. He literally did the opposite: Evicted them—and not because he felt that he had to, because it was a requirement of the law. But because he saw that he could use them as a means to the ends of his personal ambition.

I’m trying—really trying—not to get too hot here. But Christians should look at this act and be revolted. They should be horrified.

Because using vulnerable human beings for your personal gratification is evil.

In previous eras, when a political actor pursued a policy that was useful but cruel, he would make excuses. He would pretend that actually the policy was okay. That no one would really get hurt. Or that, if someone was going to get the short end, that tough choices had to be made because there was no alternative. So sorry.....

....One of Trump’s political innovations was to realize that his followers wanted cruelty. They didn’t care about abstract ideas, like the free market or liberalism. They had various subsets of Americans whom they hated. What they wanted was a strongman who would target these othered peoples and hurt them. They wanted cruelty; policy TBD. "


 

 

 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-26/viktor-orban-will-speak-at-cpac-in-texas-despite-nazi-speech-backlash, 

 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/viktor-orban-hungary-cpac-2024-decisive/

From  my May 23, 2022 post:  Viktor Orban's Hungary: CPAC's fantasy land

 https://www.vox.com/2022/5/19/23123050/hungary-cpac-2022-replacement-theory  

From my posting in May, 2022:

Such wide acceptance of replacement theory is becoming a threat to democracy itself.  This embrace of Viktor Orban of similar racist policies of anti-immigration and Hungarian ethnic domination also brings with it association with autocracy as a preferred method of governance instead of democracy. FOX's Tucker Carlson's enthusiasm for the autocratic ruler of Hungary inspired the US conservative pac,  CPAC to hold a conference in Hungary and plans more.  Hungary's Orban opens CPAC by telling conservatives "we need to coordinate the movement" of allies - CBS News    Tread lightly, CPAC.  You, too, will find yourself with not only the racist, anti-semitic white nationalism that is Orban's but saddled with his method of governing, which means no press freedom ( or press only permitted that is approved by Orban) and what we would consider in the US, a corrupt alliance between big business and government with rewards going to friends of Orban. An independent judiciary no longer exists.  Hungary is not like the US. Orban could be as racist and nationalist as he liked since 97% of the country is Magyar (Hungarian) and speaks Hungarian.  There are no large groups of minorities. That is not the US now and in the future. Takeover by someone like Orban appealing to white nationalists has not been. would not be, and will not be a peaceful process.  For US white nationalists, Hungary is a fantasyland.  The late Madeleine Albright, our beloved former secretary of state, tagged Orban as a fascist in her best-selling book, Fascism: A Warning "in 2018  mostly because of his racism and his opposition to "liberal democracy".  ( Fascism: a warning)


Hungary: where editors tell reporters to disregard facts before their eyes | Hungary | The Guardian

Living With Corruption: An Examination of Viktor Orbán’s Hungary — COLUMBIA POLITICAL REVIEW (cpreview.org)