Showing posts with label narcissistic sociopath. Show all posts
Showing posts with label narcissistic sociopath. Show all posts

Saturday, July 13, 2024

Both pass cognitive tests;: Trump has additional mental health issues


(Update: July 16, 2024: My word to those claiming either is too old: I am older than either Trump or Bden.. Given modern medicine, bodies and minds age at different rates in humans. My word to those who try to disqualify either because of age: Shut up. Biden has more than demonstrated since the debate that was an episode, not a condition.

Trump has had his moments as well. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-confuses-nikki-haley-pelosi-talking-jan-6-rcna134863) When the teleprompter fails, he has been seen and heard to go off on sharks, electric boats, and, whether others call gibberish and word salads. )

Trump also often deflects criticism of him by accusing his critic of doing what he himself does. The trick is called projection. It can also be an unconscious reaction.   https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/24/opinions/trumps-absurd-projection-reveals-his-anxiety-avlon/index.html?

The most glaring example of Trump's projection complex:  Democrats cheated n 2020 elecito (no evidence ever emerged after 3 years) , the big lie, and now Trump and MAGA plan to cheat in 2024, as revealed by Project 2025 and the strategy revealed by the Heritage Foundation.



Both Trump and Biden pass cognitive tests: Trump has additional mental health issues. I am listening to some comments about Biden, his impressive performance at the NATO presser, and his mental acuity. One of the strangest was, well, he showed great acuity when he talked about foreign policy but not when he talked about his own health. Come on....either he has sufficient acuity in his brain, or he doesn't. There may be other matters at work here...like he is getting attacked because of his age. How does acuity disappear or appear given the topic?   

 So, explain this:  https://www.npr.org/2024/07/12/nx-s1-5036518/biden-trump-poll

"The race for the presidency remains statistically tied despite President Biden’s dismal debate performance two weeks ago, a new national NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll finds.

"Biden actually gained a point since last month’s survey, which was taken before the debate. In this poll, he leads Trump 50% to 48% in a head-to-head matchup. But Biden slips when third-party options are introduced, with Trump holding the slightest advantage with 43% to 42%."    

Trump has had his moments when the teleprompter fails, wandering off about sharks, electric boats, and what othesr call gibberish and word salads.  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-confuses-nikki-haley-pelosi-talking-jan-6-rcna134863

Where MAGA goes wrong with cognitive tests is that most Biden voters know he has a speech stutter, makes gaffes, and is old, and that is nothing new. They already support him because he represents more than himself: stopping Trump. They realize Trump's problem is mental health, not cognitive health. Only the media and some ambitious politicians seem to be shocked. In short, they already discount his vulnerabilities and support him https://www.cnn.com/.../donald-trump-criticism.../index.html anyway.

Former White House chief of staff tells friends that Trump ‘is the most flawed person’ he’s ever met | CNN Politics
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Former White House chief of staff tells friends that Trump ‘is the most flawed person’ he’s ever met | CNN Politics
Former White House chief of staff tells friends that Trump ‘is the most flawed person’ he’s ever met | CNN Politics

Felicia Muftic
So far, he has been tagged by professional psychologists as a narcissistic psychopath. For those who understand choices, understand the alternative and the consequences:. A narcissistic sociopath with his finger on the nuclear bomb who can't tell a dangerous and aggressive adversary from his role models
NYT editorial board calls Trump 'unfit to lead'
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NYT editorial board calls Trump 'unfit to lead'

Wednesday, July 10, 2024

Conversations with an old, dear friend about politics:..me a confessed lib and he for Trump

 I had a most interesting exchange with an old friend this week...who says he once voted for Obama and now is solidly behind Trump. He more or less patted me on the head for being a loyal Democrat. I'm sort of sorry I held my tongue. But I am not for butting my heads with futility and Trump followers. Liberals like us are supposed to be open-minded and respect other opinions. I have almost lost old friends over politics, and there are, believe it or not, other ties that bind friendships than political compatibility. Like most conversations like this, I thought of what I should have said later. (Hells bells, Project 2025 would destroy whatever cause I have fought in politics as an office holder and an activist and journalist for 50 years..consumer and environmental protections, public transportation, voting rights, women's rights to control their health and destiny, and a strong defense of Europe, where the bulk of my family lives). He gave two reasons: our military is in bad shape, and the disaster at the border. I said my military contacts indicated nothing like that. (Who did he listen to, I wondered, the right wing that diversity watered down the white race blood in the military? Beginning with the preface of his opinion: "I voted once for a black man, Obama," was the defensive tip-off of his sensitivity to the racial element he would imply). I mentioned that the illegal crossings at the border were one half than months before (Slence and ignored, but I didn't pursue Trump's sabotage of the bi-partisan bill that would have gone far to fix the problem because nothing seems far enough for Trumpsters except putting 20K in concentration camps). Then I tried another tack: Trump is mentally unfit and dangerous because he is a narcissistic sociopath who will do what is good for him and his lust for power and not what's good for you and me. That was a "Who said that? Never heard that one", he responded. So I gave him some websites from Psychology Today on that one to contemplate and owed that one to our respective media silos, too, as I did the rest.

If any of the these fail to link: copy and paste their URL

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/moral-landscapes/202008/the-psychology-donald-trump

 https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/11/trump-new-york-times-00167529 



https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/politics/donald-trump-criticism-from-former-administration-officials/index.html

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Friday, July 5, 2024

Trump needs an evaluation for mental health fitness, while Biden has to prove his cognitive fitness

Let's rephrase this comparison:.  who is more unfit; Trump or Biden? If not Biden, who else?  There is nothing wrong with Biden's brain (aging body is his problem). His years of experience and wisdom are in working order. His ability to express without stumbling in the disaster of the debate recently makes me wonder if, as former Speaker Nancy Pelosi put it, "was an episode or a condition. "  Only Biden can answer that with his performance in unscripted situations in the next week or so. On the other hand, we have this evaluation of Donald Trump by those who served closely with him.  He is so flawed a personality that he is unfit for office. https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/politics/donald-trump-criticism-from-former-administration-officials/index.html  (copy, paste URLif it does not link) He needs a current psychiatric evaluation.  What name would lay people apply to his unfit condition if no such evaluation existed? So far, he has been tagged by professional psychologists as a narcissistic psychopath. For those who understand choices, understand the alternative and the consequences:.  a narcissistic sociopath with his finger on the nuclear bomb who can't tell a dangerous and aggressive adversary from his role models

 https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/11/trump-new-york-times-00167529 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/moral-landscapes/202008/the-psychology-donald-trum

So, after the Stephanopolis "interview",  more of an inquisition, after Biden rattled off a whole bunch of statistics without notes and a list of where and what he had been doing to keep America in leadership of the "free" world. Fact checkers could find no fault with the statistics he rolled off his tongue.  It took pages of enumerating Trump's lies in the debate.   Geroge asked him at least 5 times if he was Biden sure he was up to four more years and got the same answer five times, yes. It is important to ask two more questions, if not Biden, who (and frankly, there is no one) and who is more likely to win. The choice is between Trump and  Biden, whose judgment, wisdom, brains, character, and knowledge are intact but frail in body.  On the other hand, there is his opponent or a robust chest-thumping demagogue who is seriously lacking in character, a liar, a narcissistic sociopath, bordering on a megalomaniac, and those who served closely with him call him unfit. So who is the most unfit? Is this the choice? It is clearly the most unfit: Trump.  

Whether Trump has passed a mental health fitness test and profile has yet to be determined, at least from what we know. Until then, he can expect to be called, in very lay terms, "crazy" and a danger or, more kindly, more damning, "unfit", because this addresses how bad is his mental health that would DQ him from office.    This year, my son, a traveling international business consultant, was crossing a border in Europe. As the official was down looking at his American passport, he asked, "Which is it. The old guy or the crazy one".  That is a simplistic but valid question.

This reminds me of a conversation I recall when I was young, not long after the horrors of World War II.  I had asked my mother what was wrong with Hitler that resulted in starving kids in Europe (I married one of those later) and dead people.  She added a word to my vocabulary:  megalomaniac. In my 8 year old Oklahoma colloquialism, that meant "too big for his britches". Is Trump one of those? Many clinical psychologists have weighed in publicly, including his own clinical psychologist niece, calling him a narcissistic psychopath.   He has a me, me, mine focus.  He is not for you or me but for what benefits him and he channels all grievances through how they impact him.. However, is he as deranged as Hitler was to describe Trump as a megalomaniac too?  I searched for an answer and found one that drew the difference between a megalomaniac and a narcissistic psychopath, the most commonly used description by clinical psychologists (including his niece Mary) to describe his personality disorder.  This from the Cambridge English Language dictionary made reference to unjustified delusions of superiority and power. "Narcissism is an exaggerated sense of self-love while megalomania is an exaggerated sense of self-worth based on fantasies of power, attractiveness, and other physical or psychological attributes and, therefore, all megalomaniacs are narcissists, but not all narcissists are megalomaniacs. "  

Here is where I have a problem with calling Trump a megalomaniac, but he is a potential one. Trump, using fear and intimidation, has had enormous success in controlling the Supreme Court and fellow partisans in the legislature and in lower jurisdictions even when out of office and now may even get out of criminal prosecution due to "his" Supreme Court's supermajority.  He has reason to think his powerfulness is justified, not a delusion.  Hitler thought so at first, too.  He had reasons to think his power and control were successful until they were not, and he ended up dead in his Berlin bunker. In any case, too bad Trump has not had a psychiatric evaluation. 

By the way, Trump boasts about his cognitive test outcome.  As part of my regular yearly checkup, at least at an initial one when I was over 70, I was asked to draw a clock face and then put the current time on it in the form of the minute and hour hands. I was asked to remember 3 words and then, sometime later, to repeat them, and I was given a story about a person's life and then later asked a question related to the story. That was it. I passed. That is only an initial screening for Alzheimer's. These cognitive tests are given periodically in annual checkups. I have not heard the result of any recent tests from candidate.  Trump could not remember the name of this personal physician, so close to him, who is now a Trump loyal political candidate, and called him Johnson when his name was Jackson. Tump's lack of more than short-term focus and inability to comprehend the written word sounds much like some of my offspring's challenges with ADHD, yet the overcame them to succeed. Trump never overcame that, if that is one of his problems. However, his desire to use threats and fear of violence to get his way, to tell lies and manipulate followers at every opportunity, and to focus on me, me, and mine are about more serious mental health problems. Either way, these attributes contribute to his being unfit to be a president.   

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/sociopath-clown-7-unflattering-anecdotes-mary-trump-s-book-n1233107

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/nancy-pelosi-says-biden-trump-take-mental-fitness-tests-rcna159993

 




Sunday, April 21, 2024

Messing Around Political Name Calling: notes to myself

I am fascinated by the various verbal and media slings and arrows levied at opponents.  They backfire if they are too inflammatory, so some semantic dithering occurs. These are notes to myself to keep in mind as I write opinions that may include criticism of Donald Trump.

 Some verbal combat slogans are justified if, for example, there are actual court findings to back them up. Others are just various degrees of nasty and insulting words hurled at a candidate's personality traits or appearance. Whatever terms are used should be precise and tied to well-known, acknowledged behaviors relevant to governing as a president. 

Others are naive about Trump's behavior and character problems but, while ignoring and/or acknowledging these issues, see it in their business as ideological evangelism or political interests to support him. Character will be on the ballot in 2024 to some extent, as well as other controversial issues and behaviors in contention. Update 4/29/23: Barr, McConnell, and Desantis have announced they will support Trump in spite of all of these issues. These chicken chickens are all going home to roost as they come to the aid of their party.  Barr, when pressed, said all of Biden's issues and progressives were a disaster for the country, and he even said it with a straight face. Clearly, ideology and party loyalty are way above democracy's future or any other consideration. Barr should be pressed to deny any and all of Biden's accomplishments.  Sick. Those business interests still support Trump because they think he will keep their taxes low,  give them a financial advantage, and keep regulatory agencies off their backs. They have traded their business interests for a con man and sleazeball, a demagogue, a thug boss,  an adjudicated liar, fraudster,  and rapist,  and a wannabe self-admitted "dictator on ( or for) day e one."Other names with enough evidence from professional or professorial observers may be justified, but need an explanation and definition.  I will use those sparingly and in context. Some of those are wannabe fascist and narcissistic sociopath. 

Update: 5 16 2024

A puzzle that probably answers itself:  The GOP was once the party of the Moral Majority, but the white Christian Evangelicals have looked the other way, excusing their favored candidate of winning the award for his indecent behavior. They even see Trump as their Second Coming. My guess? The issue of abortion. On that one issue alone, the Moral Majority has become the  A-moral Minorityhttps://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/poll-finding/kff-health-tracking-poll-march-2024-abortion-in-the-2024-election-and-beyond/

An essay on Trump's contribution to American culture: indecency   https://mufticforumblog.blogspot.com/2024/04/trumps-greatest-contribution-to.html

To become a dictator requires being the king of chaos in the short term. That is a formula for strife as he uses and abuses his power and tries to violate laws. and deal with legislatures not yet fully in his control to amass big government, federal, and local political power for himself. His ability to abuse the judicial process is on display every day now, and with more appointments to the federal bench and Supreme Court, it will only be worse in a second term. Note updated: while he has been indicted in multiple federal and state criminal cases, he has also been suspected as being a suspected twice unindicted co-conspirator in criminal cases:  the most recent Ariaona state fake elector case, and in the already completed first Stormy Daniels case that landed his fixer , Michael Cohen, in jail.  It is fair to call him a two times unindicted co-conspirator because those  will never go to trial. 

This chaos is not conducive to a good business climate. However, busines see short-term benefits. They are not a naive bunch, but I think since the polls show today that Trump, the supporter of crony capitalism, still has a good chance to win, and they want to count themselves into his crony capitalist club.   

Dictator or autocrat? Trump now owns the word of how he wants to govern: dictator.  He used it himself. Most media prefer to call his plans to take over the executive branch and continue his takeover of the judiciary "autocratic."  It is less inflammatory and implies even one-man rule has its limits, in not totalitarian control over some freedoms once enjoyed,  or is a kind of power grabbing without the ovens of Auschwitz. I prefer " dictator "because that is how Trump sees himself: becoming a strong man above the law like Putin and keeping himself in power by taking control of all the branches of government and the media. He rationalizes why he can get stuff done without significant opposition from either a minority or a majority. That is not a democracy I ever heard of.

 He is no law and order person, promising to use the DOJ for retribution and persecution against his opponents.  He is for law with oder of corruption and bias and not even a pretense of fairness or protection of civil rights. That just stinks. He supports political violence and suppression of protests using active military.  He has used fear and threats of strong-arm tactics to get himself where he is, calling the shots even from exile in Mar-a-Lago. It works. Bully is not a kind term, but fair.  When bullying crosses over to threats of violence, pardoning violent political acts, and encouraging known violent actors to do his dirty work, as on January 6, that is more like the characteristic of a Mafia boss-style thug. That is a formula for being king of chaos and strife as he uses and abuses his power and tries to violate laws. and deal with legislatures not yet fully in his control to amass big government, federal, and local political power for himself. The trial of January 6, now delayed until after the November elections,  will provide more insight into his role in its planning. However, his words, come to DC, it" will be a wild time," and "Go fight like hell, or you won't have a democracy anymore," are hardly coded exhortations to commit violence. That is a formula for being king of chaos and strife as he uses and abuses his power and tries to get others to violate laws on his behalf risking violating their own laws. (Just find more votes for me in Georgia and Zelensky, go find more dirt on Hunter and Joe Biden, and for thuggish militia leaders to fight like hell to stop Pence from certifying the 2020 election).  The violent thugs ended up in jail (convicted of felonies or pleading guilty in courts of law), and Trump plans to pardon them because he considers them "hostages." Zelensky is paying for his failure or refusal to dig up dirt as Trump tells his minions in the House to vote against aid to rescue Ukraine from a Russian takeover. (Fortunately, he failed when the Democrats and rational and national security-minded Republicans joined hands to fund Ukraine on April 20.)

There are some examples of failures and examples of opponent partisans trying to tie Biden into the admitted actions of a son and then calling it the "Biden Crime Family." Saying it often did not make it true. That one fell out of vogue when the GOP House committee lost its witnesses to any gain or conspiracy related to Biden's avarice.  No, Biden is in no way an accused criminal subject to impeachment or prosecution. Still, Donald Trump and his profiteering son-in-law(given cushy funds management of Saudi investment funds even though he never had funds management experience)after leaving the White House are given a pass by Democrats. Funny how that works.  

Is Trump a liar? He is not the first sitting president to tell a lie. It is not simple to just call him a liar. Political lies are protected as free speech. Calling out and proving lies are the duties of political opponents.  Being unethical is not a crime; not every act violates the law. If it causes damage to someone, it may or may not end up in court, but the damaged party has to have proof and attached proof of the damages. Calling a person a liar is free speech, but whether it is relevant to an illegal act is a different issue. In Trump's case, fact-checkers have a field day, but do voters care? Some do: A classic line that will live forever came from the mouth of a prospective juror in the hush money trial: "I wouldn't believe him if his tongue was notarized." The phrase has a history, but it became a legend in the trial when a prospective juror applied it to her opinion of Trump.  

 Sometimes lies have consequences that lead to court suits and legal actions that find proof of intentional lies and have relationships to other related laws, civil and criminal.  Trump can be called a liar because he has lost court cases lately in which it was judged he lied. The findings in the Trump University were that fraud was involved, and restitution was required.  Trump and his company's real estate have been found liable for misrepresenting property values, and the E Jean Carroll trial found Trump lied and Carroll was truthful, given credible evidence. Do these findings and judgments relate to the ability to govern in a democracy?  In the case of Nixon, lies were a part of the Watergate cover-up that led to his resignation under threat of impeachment. That is the significance of the hush money, January 6, Georgia elections, and document cases. Except for the hush money case, these may not be adjudicated until after the November elections. They all relate to the constitutional provisions of the election process.  If there is a criminal law involved, the proof required is beyond a reasonable doubt that the lie was intentional to break the law. The burden is on the prosecutor to prove it. The advantage goes to the defendant, who does not have to prove innocence.

It is fair game for Trump to be called a con man. That was the significance of both his real estate fraud cases and the Trump University case, where he was found liable. He is usually so convincing with his oratory he could sell coals to Newcastle (the one in England or Colorado coal mining country)."Don't believe what you see on Jan.6; they were just innocent, not violent assaults on police," he tells his followers, who then a close their eyes and tell themselves such tall tales no Constitutional process was nearly upended by violence egged on by Trump. I am not sure whether Trump gets away with it because he is so convincing or if those who believe that are fools or are cynically pledging allegiance to "the Boss," but there is truth to the saying attributed to PT Barnum, an epic huckster," a sucker is born every minute. " Juries have found his business enterprises to be frauds in recent high-profile court findings and have levied crushing fines.  All of this is on appeal, but the attacks are still valid if a jury of peers found him liable, or guilty,  for fraud and lies,  and calling Trump a con man or a fraudster is  fair game 

 Trump so far has been able to delay, delay, and delay the Special Council Jack Barr's two federal crime cases concerning records and Jan.6 with appeals and claims Trump is not subject to any law while in office. Some of the delays have been due to finding a sympathetic or inept judge in Florida, and the other is a sympathetic majority of justices in the Supreme Court delaying a trial on Trump's outrageous immunity claim until it is too late to hold the trial before the November election.  The Georgia criminal case against Trump's actions in 2020 has been delayed or damaged due to the misbehavior of the prosecutor's personal life spilling over into the process.  

There have been those. both professionals and lay people who had worked with him, from Conservative attorney George Conway to his niece Mary, who has called Trump narcissistic and a liar and a sociopath, and others have tagged Trump with being a...hole, an idiot, a dope, a moron.   Calling him that alone must be coupled with why he should not be a president again, such as being a demagogue or a dictator ruling like dictators he admires.  

We have had liars and corrupt politicians aspiring to be president or even occupying the Oval Office before. Andrew Jackson was one, and Nixon was not a truth-teller. Jackson was famous for the corrupt system of spoils, so abusive it inspired the creation of the civil service system. Project 2025, the plan funded and already being prepared by the Heritage Foundation to enact day one to turn Trump into a dictator., wants to replace civil service with the corrupt spoils system, firing all who are not loyal to Trump and replacing them with Trump loyalists. The spoils system is an institutionalized opportunity for corruption. Bribery is unnecessary; loyalty to benefit the boss is reason enough to rule one way or another.  Trump tried that same stunt with an executive order when he was president but failed.

 However, the goal to amass power like a dictator using the demagogic oratorical skills of Donald Trump, and civil court cases ruled against him for being a con man and a rapist, puts him in a totally different class of narcissistic sociopath that is relevant to how he intends to govern as President of the United States if he wins in November.  He will use all means to give himself more power and to control the power centers of government to support his power-lusting quest to claim he does not have to abide by any law while president and is immune from prosecution for any crimes he commits. It is" me, me, me, mine," and "only I can fix it."

What about fascism?  Is it fair to call Trump and the GOP fascists?  It is, but so inflammatory in need to define what fascism is at the same time,  it may not be the best strategy.  However, both Trump and the MAGA faction of the GOP walk like a duck and quack like a duck, which is classically fascist.  https://mufticforumblog.blogspot.com/2023/11/no-longer-pussyfooting-around-calling.html   No less than the New York Times has made a case for calling Trump a fascist.  He is at least a wannabe fascist, which I think is ok, but I will use that one sparingly. 

My own seat-of-the-pants shorthand definition of fascism is that it is just like the communist dictatorships of the Cold War without the "communism" ideology.  Nationalism becomes the driving ideology, often joined with religion and crony capitalism. Dictators are required to put it into practice. The techniques of governing and control of its citizens are similar to those used by communist dictators, sometimes including violent and military-aggressive actions.. What is different is that racism and mutual coziness to big business or oligarchs also are the drivers of most modern fascist dictators.. Crony capitalism is also a characteristic of modern dictatorships, from Hungary to Russia. Perhaps a better word is the Russian one for crony capitalists:  Oligarchs.  There is a recent book making the case that American oligarchs are the new political class. https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/?id=p082825  

Current fascists and dictators may not include the ovens and genocide or central control of the economy, but to be called a fascist does not need to go that far.  You do not need to be a Hitler to be a fascist. Trump's idol, Vladimir Putin, fits my definition of a fascist dictator.  Edergan of Turkey has elements of fascism, controlling all the power centers of government. The military once was poised and activated if the government got too oppressive, but Erdogan got control of them, too. I am not sure if Erdogan has an ideology above a lust for power and control and a fear of extremists in his own Muslim religion sabotaging and invading his country.   Orban of Hungary is a "fascist light," using the levers of government to do his work in a country that is already 95% pure ethnicMagyars and afraid Middle Eastern immigrants would contaminate their blood. Where have I heard that one before? Like all of his related fascists, he controls the media, the message, and the "news", and as he gathered the reins of power,  his first goal was to destroy the freedom of the press. This just illustrates the problem: the definition and case/reasons/evidence need to accompany any designation of Trump and MAGA as fascists and should be made at the same time the tag is applied..  https://mufticforumblog.blogspot.com/2023/08/is-trump-fascist-now-his-followers.html

  https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-and-the-success-of-the-narcissistic-sociopath  

https://www.britannica.com/topic/spoils-system    

  https://apnews.com/article/trump-trial-jurors-hush-money-criticism-b4fe05a61ed566a587523d1120b46a76

https://www.amazon.com/Assholes-Theory-Donald-Aaron-James/dp/0385542038Asshole theory of Trump

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/04/trumps-insults-idiot-woodward-806455

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-plan-gut-civil-service-triggers-pushback-by-unions-democrats-2023-12-

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-plan-gut-civil-service-triggers-pushback-by-unions-democrats-2023-12-22/

https://azmirror.com/2024/04/25/who-are-the-five-unindicted-co-conspirators-in-arizonas-fake-elector-criminal-case/

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2018/08/22/cohen-plea-deal-trump-watergate-prosecutor

A classic line that will live forever came from the mouth of a prospective juror in the hush money trial: "I wouldn't believe him if his tongue was notarized." The phrase has a history, but it became a legend in the trial when a prospective juror applied it to her opinion of Trump.   https://www.google.com/search?q=tongue+notarized+quote&rlz=1CAJFMC_enUS1016US1016&oq=tongue+notarized+quote&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigAdIBCjIyOTI1ajBqMTWoAgiwAgE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#ip=1&vhid=6HE2sDKVxk0rGM&vssid=l